ich kopier hier mal
Zitat von **********eg_14:
„„„Ich höre immer das ein PA Piercing von Vorteil sei. Meine Frage? Hat jemand auch Erfahrung mit andern Piercing. wie sieht es den mit einem Vorhautpiercing aus? Es geht ja darum, das der Penis nicht zurück, also aus dem Penisrohr der Schelle, zurück gezogen werden kann. Würde da den ein solches Vorhautpiercing nicht auch reichen? Da ja meist bei Piercings, Ringe zu Einsatz kommen, könnte Mann es ja mit dem der Schellle und der Vorhaut verbinden?
Lady Miranda
Ich habe mich vor ein paar Jahren für ein Frenum Piercing statt einem PA entschieden. Die Überlegung damals war, dass das FP weniger permanent ist, und auch weniger mögliche Nebenwirkungen hat. Und stimmt, wenn ich keinen Ring oder KG trage, spielt das FP praktisch keine Rolle und fällt auch nicht auf.
Allerdings muss ich sagen, dass es als Sicherung für einen KG wahrscheinlich weniger geeignet ist als ein PA. Das Frenum, und ich vermute gleiches gilt für die Vorhaut, ist relativ dünn, d.h. ein daran befestigter KG darf auf keinen Fall ziehen, drücken oder sonstwie mit seinem Gewicht das Piercing belasten. Für mich war es recht aufwendig, wenn auch im Ende möglich, einen KG zu finden, der mit einem FP kombiniert dauerhaft tragbar ist (Teil der Lösung ist ein 5mm Tunnel der durch das Piercing geführt wird).
Ich kann mich nicht beklagen, mit dem FP ist ein KG möglich, der Orgasmen definitiv verhindert, und dauerhaft tragbar ist (Locktober :-)). Allerdings wäre das Ganze mit einem PA wesentlich einfacher zu erreichen gewesen.
Daher, wenn ich wieder am Anfang wäre, würde ich mich definitiv für einen PA entscheiden
Welchen kg hast du denn ?
ich kopier hier mal einen längeren Text rein (Englisch, ist hoffentlich ok), mit dem ich vor einiger Zeit den KG beschrieben habe. Es handelt sich um einen Steelworxx Tube Jacket for Frenum Piercing
Many players are looking for working chastity devices, and since I have found a solution that (for me) works 100% and seems to be wearable for long periods, I wanted to share the design, motivations and results. Feel free to PM me or comment here if you like to know more. It is a bit of effort to measure, try and buy this, but from my POV it was very worthwhile.
Well, that is, as long as I am not held in chastity and want out
To set the scene, I was looking for the following
A cage that can be worn as close to 24/7 as possible, and that prevents or at least effectively discourages orgasm (aren't we all looking for this)
The device must be compatible with an active life style (several types of sports)
Got to be realistic. Can be worn under clothing without being obvious, can't cover too much of the body, hygene must be reasonably easy
It must offer some type of tamper safe security, that still has the possibility to remove it in emergencies e.g. in cases where I or my keyholder are travelling
Orgasm prevention must cater for the specifics of how i can, and can not masturbate. I am circumcised since my childhood, and as a result my penis head is not very sensitive. With growing age, pretty much the only way to get to an orgasm is to stimulate the spot right behind the frenum, on the underside of the penis. Without access to this, no amount of rubbing on lower parts of the penis shaft or the penis head can get me off. It is important to note, that the chastity design we ended up with will only work for guys that fit that pattern. Anybody who can cum by just toching the head will need a different solution.
An early conclusion of the above was that all full chastity belt designs, and probably also all models that require a ring behind the testicles, were not an option for us. This lead down the path to look for models that lock to the penis only, and that cover the "magic" spot.
We chose a frenum piercing over a PA as it leaves less of a lasting damage (I did not want to punch a hole into my urethra). What we also found is that a frenum piercing can be stretched quite easily, it was possible and necessary to enlarge it to 5mm diameter (see below why).
To make the cage long term wearable, it must not put too much stress on the piercing. We found two complementary methods to achieve this. First low weight of the cage (small, titanium) and secondly to distribute the load over a bigger surface, i.e. to make the piercing larger.
There are a cople of manufacturers that offer penis-only tube like designs (mouse trap, Steelwerks, Steelworxx), but most only work with PA's. But, in dialog a few were willing to try a frenum variant, and we chose Steelworxx due to their owners responsiviness, and also stil reasonable pricing.
The specifics of the desing were worked out over a period of 2 months. Dietmar from Steelworxx created a prototype to prove the concept, and form a hindsight I have to agree that this was necessary, as the initial design would e.g. have put the locking pin into a positon that pulled too much on the piercing.
The main design decisions (also see pictures in my profile) we took are
The tube can not simply lock with a security screw through the piercing. First of all that screw would likely be too low diameter, i.e. too small skin area to distribute the load, and secondly during multi day wear, skin inside of the piercing would stick to the screw a bit, which made removing the screw very difficult (it started to wind up the skin inside the piercing - outch). The solution was to get a titanium tunnel, 5mm diameter (most piercing shops will sell them) and lock that one through the piercing before the tube is applied. The security screw then goes through the piercing and has no direct contact to skin. A 5mm tunnel can bear quite a bit of load, I can pull on it without causing discomfort.
The tube itself is made of titanium, and rather short (back to what I said above, access to the penis shaft does not get me to orgasm). All in all low weight
The diameter of the tube is critical, this is where several self-made prototypes and then the one from Dietmar helped to fine tune. Initially I would have chosen a too narrow tube, which seemed ok initially but would have caused problems long term. Too large is also not good, as the concept of the tube requires a certain friction with the penis to avoid undue load on the piercing. You WILL need to experiment at least with self made models to get this right
There are two levels of security. The first and not too uncommon one is that a security screw locks through the tunnel/piercing. Security screw means that it will be very difficult to open without the one (!) key provided by Steelworxx.
To allow remote control of locking and unlocking, we made sure it is possible to use one-time locks instead of the security screw. The wire of the one time lock is threaded through the brackets of the chastity tube, as well as the tunnel (in the piercing). A picture of the tubed locked that way can be sent showing the lock number, and thus no removal of the tube without cutting the lock is possible. By the way, I am using metal versions of these one time locks, that are still small and light, but are professional grade for non kinky business, and thus really tamper proof.
Lastly, we chose to add the option of an additional cover over the piercing and security screw that fully coveres the very sensitive skin around the piercing. While initially access to that skin would not be enough to orgasm, our concern was that after a few days, weeks or months (gulp) this might change. However experience has shown that this is not necessary, there is no way for me to achieve an orgasm with access to just a few millimeters of skin, so this extra cover is rarely used
The result: Surprisingly good. I was wearing the cage 5 days straight after receiving it. Sleeping is not a problem, a morning erection feels a bit pressured, but not painful. Hygene is straight forward. Sports are no issues, nor wearing it under clothing. Reaching an orgasm is either not possible at this stage of chastity, or at least totally unattractive. I experimented a fair bit how to stimulate myself with shifting the tube, touching whatever areas I can reach (gets less when the penis becomes hard as I then cant push anything between tube and penis), but it became unpleasant with a tendency to painful WAY before I would achieve release.
Initially I had some soreness developing after 5 days of wearing it. Key to overcome that was to avoid stress on the piercing when sleeping - simply means pushing the dick to the side when I am laying on my belly, so that the tube is not pushed into a position where it pulls on the piercing for hours
By now I can wear this device pretty much permanently. Record is one month with one 12 hours unlock so far.
Remote controlling of the locked status, and finding a way how this can be done eliminating all chances to cheat, has been important, and is possible. I have a picture in my profile that explains how to do this in more detail.
Hygiene required a bit of practice, but it is possible, when not errect, to push one finger with soap between tube and skin, and then to rinse under the shower.
Will i be desperate, or sensitive, enough, after theoretical months of chastity, so that I can reach an orgasm, perhaps by ignoring quite a lot of pain? At this moment I don't think so, but honestly I can't know
Would I do anything different? Well, if I were to get a piercing again, I might consider a PA instead of a frenum, as from what I have read it is a more straight forward way to achieve good results, and there is a much wider offering of chastity devices for PA than for Frenum. Having said that, some more Frenum versions have come on the market, I have recentl seen one at lustlock
Overall, this appears to be a long term 24/7 wearable, and 100% effective, chastity device. Steelworxx and Dietmar have been stellar in their support and creativity, I can only recommend them. I have no business relationship other than that one purchase with them by the way, this is just a review of a fully satisfied (no pun intended) customer
If you have questions, ask here or PM me
