PREMIERE PRIVATE1 - HOT Mask Party - Österreich (02.12.2023)

Sehr gutes Beispiel wie Man(n) nicht denken sollte 🤦

marcel2500, you are very wrong. To start, I think you should review the main rules in an event like this. Everything is possible, nothing is mandatory and no, it's no! Therefore, it does not matter the situation, the place, the circumstances, etc... if they did not give you consent to touch someone, then simply do not do it, and if they told you no, do not insist. .
You wouldn't like me, as a man, to come and do whatever I want with you just because I feel like it, right? Well, treat others with the same respect.
And no, no one has problems with single men, in fact everyone knew beforehand that they would be at the event. What we expect is all single men to behave like gentlemen (and I say all since there are many who do behave accordingly). In fact, we have spoken with some of them and we like that there are also single men at the events.

What would happen if it occurred to you to touch a girl anywhere else without her consent? You could have serious legal and justice problems, right?
Well, I want to remind you that in these situations it is exactly the same. Even though it is a bar and a swinger event, if any person takes any of these actions on another without their consent, it is still a crime and they could have many legal problems.
Please single men who don't stick to the rules, reflect on that and put it into practice. Next time you might end up in a lot of trouble if you don't.

Bevor ihr solche negativen Antworten auf meinen Beitrag schreibt, solltet ihr bitte zuerst genau lesen was ich geschrieben habe.....und was damit gemeint war....
Ich respektiere behandle jeden Menschen gleich gut...und weiß mich auch zu benehmen, da braucht ihr euch keine Sorgen machen.
Ich schreibe normaler weise nie einen Beitrag....aber was hier so manche Pärchen von sich geben, sollte wirklich nicht so hingenommen werden....

Vielleicht liest du dir deinen Beitrag selbst noch mal durch......

Du solltest die Beiträge lesen. Es ging hauptsächlich darum das Solomänner im Paarbereich waren und das geht einfach nicht. Da fehlt es an Respekt und Anstand und das hat akzeptiert zu werden und benötigt keine Diskussion. Traurig das man das überhaupt erwähnen muss.

Und weil du geschrieben hast das manche Pärchen glaubten sie haben alles recht der Welt. Natürlich haben sie und ich als Solodame dieses Recht zu entscheiden wer sie / mich berühren und mehr darf.

Es ist kaum zu fassen was kan2020 hier über Singlemänner schreibt!
Gratis Bordell, Gratis Prostituierte!!....was ist den mit denen los!.....

Report a problem immediately - honestly, I don’t know how it should be done in that exact situation. Should I fight that man, should I ask my husband to fight him, should we grab him and bring him to organisers against his will? This situation happened when we were in the middle of fun, my husband didn’t see the whole picture and I was lost to react appropriately as I didn’t expect it, I didn’t want it and I couldn’t imagine it’s possible for someone to behave this way. It happened in dark room, as you know, it was crowded all the time, and making a mess right there, right at that moment - I found unfair towards others and super egotistical. I didn’t want to bother anyone, and that’s why we were trying to find explanations and apologies from organisers in private messages afterwards. But we didn’t. For unknown reasons organisers started to protect some normal solo men (to whom we didn’t have any questions, and who we’re really super nice, polite, dressed and behaved accordingly to the even, real gentlemen).

We wouldn’t go on this event from the very beginning if we knew there would be so many solo men without solo girls in equal parts. Although the main problem for some solos was the lack of understanding what they can do and what they don’t. It was like “no rules” and “no limits” party. I felt like some solo men treated couples as a part of night program - do whatever you want with them (harass, be rude, stalk).

We are not against solos, we are against people with no respect to others’ boundaries. It’s a pity that some individuals without understanding of such kind of events were accepted on board.

Yes, I can’t imagine how hard it is to organise a big event, so that everyone were 100% happy, but I do believe that the feeling of safety and security of your dignity is crucial to be provided. And I believe I do deserve an apology for what had happened instead of blaming for not taking measures during party.

P.S.
Summing up, next time I should wear lingeries and boxing gloves.

There is nothing negative about my comment, and just as you have the right to write and publish what you want, so do I.
I invite you to read your comment again and then mine, as many times as necessary. Then, without the fact of wanting to be right no matter what, try (I know it's difficult) but try to analyze it. Maybe you can understand it.
Greetings

I'm sorry you misunderstood me. Of course it is not right that these things happen, nor that you are to blame for anything, in these types of things there are no misunderstandings. I also don't think you are lying about the organizers, that is an issue between you and You have every right to publicly denounce it if you believe it is the right thing to do and that they did not act as they should when fulfilling their obligations.
But I do think differently about the way to act when faced with the problem, not because you don't bother others you have to put up with things you don't want. Yes, you should have informed the organizers at that time. According to the situations that you describe as so unpleasant, I would even be able to call the police and report them for harassment.
With respect to boxing, I was not referring to that, but to taking legal action. But if the situation escalated to levels like those you describe, it would also be understandable to reach those extremes.

Even though I am risking to jump right into the pit, I would like to add my point of view.

First of all, I would like to apologise for all the single man who did not behave appropriately on this evening.

It is kind of sad that some couples and women have negative experience during evenings where (at least from my point of view) all people gether to have a spicy, exciting and a little bit of a "different" night, while going out to party. At least people tend to be sure that the environment allows to explore boundaries, while feeling save to do so.

Well it is sad when situation like this occured where individuals do not accept rules, because (based on my experience) people tend not to give a second chance - most of the time out of fear that it will happen again. This is also why beginners tend to avoid swinger clubs or loose trust in such events - and - to be honest, it is very hard to get oneself up for another try (been there with my former partner (her)). Also when individual can't behave it leave a bad impression on every "man", since thoughts like "they are all the same" naturally emerge. I had this conversion with two couples and they confirmed that a lot of "unique" people are approaching them, which is troublesome.

From the organisers part, it was really fun. Punch tasted great, the music was good, drinks too and the people I met at the evening were just great, even though I also saw some situation where people did not behave well. The smoking area was really smoky, buuut it was my choice to stay there anyway, because of the people there, even though I do not smoke. Of course I would prefer to have the bar area as no smoking areas only, since the bar at the top was always filled with people and downstairs as well, but with smoked-dried aftertaste. It was my first time in Frivoly and by respecting the "couple area" shield I didn't have to opportunity to look how it looks "up there". I also didn't know either I could go up with a couple in case I was invited or not? (We stayed in the open area) So I think it is good to hear some word of advice, even though I might already heard them - like in the plane. All in al, it was still a great night))

Since feedback is not about criticism but to have a way of improvement, I (as single man) would also prefer that the man and woman numbers are at least equal (in case where couples are way in the majority).

Further the amount of man could be adjusted based on the "search for..." functionality - like, in case 90% of couples seek only other couples or woman, there should not be a lot of man set. First, because man might be frustrated since no spaciness is possible due to the fact that all couples want to spend time with couples and woman might also spend time with couples, so misunderstanding are predictable, no?

On the other hand woman might also want to spend with couples only and don't want to bother with man only, which could reduce the amount of man as well ))

But to the honest, I guess the most efficient way is to talk with people, before they can enter such an event - I guess a good criteria would be to at least talk in full sentences, or find out what the reason for entering such a party is, also - there may gut be criteria set (which could differ from event to event) and people could be screened based on those criteria.

I guess there are a few options to consider and I think that not everything can be planned. Also I is hard from the organisers view to differentiate who did wrong and who didn't, since one might behave differently than the other time.

Well, even though I am risking not be on the list as single man anymore I think that some adjustments are necessary, since I would like it too, when I join an event with my partner and some people start to harras has. This might ruin the mood for both of us really fast, so I full understand you guys.

Again, I am deeply sorry for the behaviour of individuals and would like to apologise for all the single man of this evening.

I hope that those of you who had a bad experience don't stop exploring their inner desire.

Cheers, V

Warum schreibt ihr auf englisch? Ich versteh doch nix, zum Teil auch nicht mit Übersetzer 🤷🏼‍♀️🙈😆

Because not everyone here speaks or writes German.
Sorry.

I saw examples of two totally different mindset people. How did it happen they both appeared to be at the same party - I don’t know. I’m really very grateful for message from Mr.V, at whom it was nothing but pleasure to watch at several times during that evening, as well as at many other gentlemen. You know, it’s easy to be hot and sexy, even being totally wearing. And it’s not ok to stalk someone just to get what you want (because it’s sex party).

Still no apology from organisers. Hope our bad experience, which was forced to become public, will help to improve at least something, and no one will be on our place in future. We also got a great lesson, which I (girl) personally would like not get.

Parties where you should be careful not to be rudely touched and harassed is not our choice.

Pf also selten noch sooo viel Reaktion auf eine Party Gelesen u sehen uns genötigt jetzt auch noch unseren Eindruck zu hinterlassen.

1) Organisation und Mühe waren richtig gut. gleich am Eingang ist man von einer netten Dame mit Goody Bag empfangen worden

2) Sicher werden alle lesen können. Für uns ist es aber durchaus nachvollziehbar das man als Solomann mit einigem Eintritt nicht nur im unteren Bereich durch die Fenster in die versperrten Räume spechteln möchte sondern auch näher am Geschehen sein will und einem die Neugier und der Jagdinstinkt und der Hauch des Verbotenen in die oberen Räume schauen lässt zusätzlich das ja einige Pärchen doch auf Männer Überschuss stehen.

3) Wir stehen absolut nicht auf HÜ und alle Männer die uns im oberen Bereich zu Nahe gekommen sind haben sofort ein Nein akzeptiert und auch die Annäherung davor war nie Überfallartig sondern langsam herantastend.

4) Wir sind viel in Clubs und auf Parties aber diese war wirklich extrem gut

5) stimmt auf den Rauch in der unteren Bar könnten wir auch gut verzichten aber gibt halt genug Raucher und die bei dem Wetter in den Dessous vor die Türe zu schicken killt auch ein wenig die Stimmung und ausserdem konnte man ja mit der oberen Bar dem gut ausweichen

6) und zu guter Letzt finden wir das echt alles überkritisch und sollten eher alle froh sein das sich Leute wie Moni und Reini überhaupt so eine Mühe machen.Wie vorhin erwähnt ist es ein Mega Aufwand alles zu organisieren und es kann ja jeder den Versuch starten es besser zu machen.

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Jetzt gebe ich auch noch mal meinen Senf zum Abschluß . Ich möchte mich auch bei moni und Rainer bedanken das sie immer noch partys organisieren. Würde gerne ihr Geheimnis wissen wo sie ihre Kraft und Motivation her nehmen.
Moni und Rainer organisieren die party perfekt. Den teil der Gäste kann man nicht planen. Eine Party fällt und steht mit den Gäste. (Zb. No show, Regel verletzung, Beschädigung, neue Gäste.)
Die Veranstalter können immer nur den Rahmen bieten und die Gäste sind für die Party verantwortlich und Stimmung.
Ich selbst als Veranstalter kann davon ein Lied singen.
Ich kann mich maximal als Gastüber das Essen aufregen. Würde ich aber niemals tun bei moni und Rainer weil es immer gut ist.
Wünsche euch eine frohe Weihnachtszeit.
Bis zum 22.12

Jetzt gebe ich auch noch mal meinen Senf zum Abschluß . Ich möchte mich auch bei moni und Rainer bedanken das sie immer noch partys organisieren. Würde gerne ihr Geheimnis wissen wo sie ihre Kraft und Motivation her nehmen.
Moni und Rainer organisieren die party perfekt. Den teil der Gäste kann man nicht planen. Eine Party fällt und steht mit den Gäste. (Zb. No show, Regel verletzung, Beschädigung, neue Gäste.)
Die Veranstalter können immer nur den Rahmen bieten und die Gäste sind für die Party verantwortlich und Stimmung.
Ich selbst als Veranstalter kann davon ein Lied singen.
Ich kann mich maximal als Gastüber das Essen aufregen. Würde ich aber niemals tun bei moni und Rainer weil es immer gut ist.
Wünsche euch eine frohe Weihnachtszeit.
Bis zum 22.12